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2. Was Atlantis the Minoan civilization?

With reference to the works of J.V Luce and R. Castleden the theory of Atlantis as being Crete (or Thera) is investigated. The conclusion is that in order to convincingly match Atlantis with Crete (or Thera) Plato dialogues are viciously twisted by means of very arbitrary interpretations


Around the XVI century B.C. a giant volcanic explosion upset all the civilization facing to the Mediterranean Sea: a great piece of Thira (1), an island belonging to the archipelago of Santorini in the Aegean Sea, practically blew up thanks to the explosion of its volcano, which left a crater measuring 11x7 km and 180 meters deep. The waves raised by such event strongly stroke other islands and continental coasts and the ashes, which according to recent investigations reached Alaska, covered the atmosphere for a long time  drying up the fields and destroying all the crops.

In that time, in that island, there was the city of Akrotiri, whose pictures, pottery and collapsed palaces survived up to our era. Today scholars think that was the central node of a refined civilization flourishing in those islands and that had probably a narrow relationship with one of the most powerful Mediterranean civilizations ruling in those times: the Minoan civilization. This one begun to decline slowly after the explosion of Thira,  flooded by seaquakes and ashes which weakened agriculture. At the end of the XIII century was finally defeated by Greeks.

There are historians who believe Atlantis was the vanquished civilization of Akrotiri and some other think it was Crete (2) itself (or maybe it was a confused memory the Egyptians saved about Minoan civilization). There are also people believing that Atlantis was both these two civilizations, which were the expression of a more general one. Anyway all academic historians are sure that, inside the tale of Atlantis, there is the memory of the volcanic catastrophe which compelled the Minoan civilization to an irreversible decline.

Atlantis’ civilization refinement, its skilled sailors, the advanced hydraulic systems, the insularity, the tragic end and other elements seems to fit very well the civilization flourished at Knossos  and that was rediscovered only in 1900 thanks to the digs of Sir Arthur Evans (3).

He also dig out the famous Minotaur’ s labyrinth (4)  which people uses to compare with the Poseidon’s temple placed in the Acropolis of Atlantis’ capital city. In fact this giant building, featuring multiple floors, contains a garden where sacrifices were performed and where appears the symbol of the trident, obviously associated to Poseidon. Clues of what the Minoan civilization was survived in the pottery, wall paintings (5), and in the buildings. We don’t have written documents, even because all its language is still a mystery (we’re able to translate only partially) and the few documents translated look like bookkeeping registers.

Above all, the paintings give us a proof that convinced many scholars to compare Atlantis and Knossos: they represents some games, or ceremonies, that man did with bulls, like a kind of bullfight. Likewise, we know, Atlantean kings, during the solemn ritual for renewing the loyalty to the ancient laws, used to capture a bull with bare hands in a garden and then sacrificed it to the gods. The importance of the bull like sacred animal  in both civilizations has driven the actual orthodox opinion to identify them and  to classify Atlantis like a reminiscence (otherwise a fantastic inspiration) of Minoan civilization.

Bulls, hydraulic works, skill in the navigation, catastrophic end are all common elements. How the remaining Plato’s tale form is part of Crete civilization? Here scholars have acted some mutilations to the dialogue so that accounts be correct. Excluding who say that Plato inspired himself only to Crete (that then he already knew) ,we analyse before the adduced explanations from who think that Plato is arrived to a tale more or less confuse about Crete civilization. We  list some discrepancy between the two civilizations and which is their origin:

 

1.     Plato said clearly that Atlantis was big (see only the dimensions of rectangular plateau, approximately 191000 kmq)  and that it was out from Mediterranean, in front of the Gadiric region of Iberian peninsula. J.V. Luce, history teacher in Dublin University, in 1969, in consequence of excavations at Thera and these at Crete previously, wrote a book entitled “The end of Atlantis”. According to him the Greek words “meson” and “meizon” would be confused, so that the correct translation is “between Libby and Minor Asia” and not “more big than Libby and Minor Asia” (rfc. to Atlantis island). But, if that is true, we must then explain the contradiction that take place in the other Plato’s references: the point that Atlantis was in front of the Spain and that was much more big than an island like Crete. To that point it is customary to say that Plato confused the symbols of tens and hundreds and so the temporal and space scale of Atlantis would have divided for ten, leading back to facts comparable to Crete. This criterion, however, isn’t correct some time, in fact it’ s customary to keep unchanged other facts without divide them for ten. It’s possible that Plato have confused the symbols for one more time ( temporal scale, dimensions of plateau and army )?     

 

2.     Atlantis’ rectangular plain can be compared only fantasticly to that of Mesara which is in Crete. In fact there are no the characteristic rectangular shape and the also proportions, and the big irrigation canals.

 

3.     The Atlantis’ capital, with his characteristic plain at concentric circles, don’ t exist absolutely in the big cities found nor in Crete neither in Cnosso, where some identify the Minotaur’ s labyrinth with Poseidon’ s temple, there is track of that geometry.

 

4.     The abundance of valuable metals, like gold, silver, brass don’t characterize certainly Crete, which rest enough poor of that resources. The same can be told for two others metals largely used at Atlantis: tin and copper.

 

5.     Big forests, river courses, abundance of elephants seldom existed in the time of Minoan civilization, because the little extension of island didn’t give much time to development of these geographical aspects (like for the resources however).

 

6.     The politic system of Atlantis’ civilization, divided into 10 reigns for 10 monarchs of divine descent, hasn’t anyone correspondence with Minoan civilization.

 

Rodney Castleden, author of “Atlantis destroyed”, say that Atlantis was composed of two islands, one is round (Thera) and the other rectangular (Crete) in spite of in the Plato’ s dialogue is clear that the plateau on which rose the capital with concentric circles was rectangular. Nobody told about physical separation of two island of that shape.   However it’s easy to be allowed to say one’s opinion about Atlantis, always if we are still talking  of it.

It’s clear that is a suicide to admit that Plato received a confuse tale of Minoan civilization: the tale is so rich of details (much coherent between them) that have nothing to do with Crete. How can be the detailed plan of the Atlantis’ capital a confuse detail? Then many scholars admit that Plato in some way embellished the tale with addition of elements or corrected the originating source of Solon believing that the great legislator has made a mistake. Why Plato admit that it is a true tale also if it’s incredible? The subject of “embellishment” and “confusion” of the originating tale serves only to do agree with that myriad of differences between Atlantis and Crete: when the tales are different, it means that the dialogue has been embellished or confused, while when they have similar aspects the dialogue represent perfectly the originating history. There isn’t coherence in all that and to understand like these argumentations can be used for other theories about Atlantis and to do agree with any geographical area and civilization of the World.

To tell the truth there are some features similar to Crete’s ones and many other that utterly differ.

For some people Plato got inspiration from Minoan civilization in order to give a good example of society. Why, then, did he speak about Minoans (disguised like Atlanteans) if Plato appreciated the best the democratic Athens prospered in the V century a.C.? Wasn’t it a better and more remarkable example for Athenians living that days?

Anyway there’s an important implication about the war between Athens and Atlantis. In fact, after that Minoans were seriously damaged by floods and earthquakes coming from Thera, they were eventually defeated by Greeks in 1,200 a.C. Athens took part to the war and Plato also mentioned names of Greek heroes that presumably lived that time. This time the Greeks caused the war against a weak civilization, differently from what Plato wrote.

In Egypt Minoans were remembered as the civilization of Keftiu, which they traded something with, and for some scholars they referred to Solon about it (later Solon would have translated in Greek words). But they also say that Egyptians had scarce geographic knowledge and so placed Keftiu in the Atlantic. It’s too strange the Egyptian placed Crete out of the Mediterranean while they absolutely knew well where Greeks and Libya were located.

Usually, people supporting this theory, think that the Pillar of Heracles are two promontories which come out from the Peloponnesus. They mean that at Solon’s times Greeks referred to that pillars as Heracle’s ones. But they never explain how Atlantis’ land could have an edge facing Spain and why that part of Spain was called in accordance with the name of one king of Atlantis.

Rodney Castelden tried to show that the details which don’t fit Crete’s geography, society and politics can be found instead in some other Plato’s experiences of life, like the task of teacher at Syracuse. He says that the city of Atlantis is just an embellishment of Syracuse using some poetry from Homer and that its story can be considered a satire of the events which took place during his staying in Sicily.

How can the dialogue be a satire if it consists mainly in geographic details (80% at least) and in the organization of two different civilizations ? The author, then, doesn’t leave any moral comments.

What should we believe then? Was Crete’s history mistaken for another one? Was it embellished for political purposes? Each of these options leaves many doubts and can’t explain many facts.

In the table below is a checklist comparing Atlantis and Crete/There features. As for the chpater 6 of section 1 (Atlantis found) 1 point for correct check, -1 for uncorrect check and 0 for uncertain checks.



Atlantis

Creta/Thera

huge continent

before Gibraltar

rom that an opposite continent could be reached thanks to some islands

rich of resources and metals

gold

silver

tin

copper

fine clime

elephants and horses

rectangular plateau at the center of the island

high mountains

abundance of rivers and forests

Canals in the rectangular plain

Sunken

Orichalcum

Mountains overhanging the sea

coconut

bull's sacrifice

ringed city

Inland sea in the plateau

red, black and withe stones

sources of cold and hot water

small hill where the ringed city flourished

shallow waters

Total

-2/25


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